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Police detectors to warn mobile phone-using drivers

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  1. Red675

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    Mobile phone detectors are to be used by police to find drivers using devices at the wheel.

    The Thames Valley and Hampshire forces are rolling out the technology to show when motorists are using their phones.

    A sign will flash at the driver telling them to stop using their mobile - but the detectors cannot tell if it is a driver or passenger using the phone.

    The mother of Aimee Goldsmith, 11, killed by a driver using a phone, said it was a "step in the right direction".

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    Image captionThe detectors are the first of their kind to be used by police in the UK though a similar system has been tried by councils
    The technology will not be used as an "enforcement tool", the forces said, but was instead aimed at educating motorists and identifying offending "hotspots".

    Kate Goldsmith's daughter was one of four people killed in the crash when lorry driver Tomasz Kroker was using his phone at the wheel in 2016.

    She said Aimee's death was "completely avoidable".

    "Most mothers look forward to planning their daughter's weddings. I had to plan Aimee's funeral," she said.

    Ms Goldsmith said she had confronted drivers using their phones behind the wheel since her daughter's death.

    "I have stopped a few people and said, 'you're using a mobile phone - it's actually a driver like you that killed my daughter'," she said.

    She said the detectors were "not a perfect solution" to convict offenders but were "a step in the direction".

    [​IMG]Image copyrightTVP
    Image captionAimee Goldsmith with her mum Kate and brother Jake
    Kroker killed Aimee, her stepbrothers Ethan Houghton, 13, Joshua, 11, and their mother Tracy, 45, when he ploughed into stationary traffic at 50mph on 10 August 2016.

    He was jailed for 10 years after admitting four counts of causing death by dangerous driving and footage showed him on his phone at the moment of impact.

    A judge said the 30-year-old's attention had been so poor he "might as well have had his eyes closed" before the crash on the A34 near Newbury.

    [​IMG]Image copyrightFAMILY HANDOUT
    Image captionTracy Houghton, her son Ethan, stepdaughter Aimee Goldsmith and younger son Josh were all killed in a crash
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    How does the technology work?
    Thames Valley Police and Hampshire Constabulary have developed the technology with Westcotec Ltd.

    The system, which cannot record footage, was initially tested in Norfolk last year.

    The detector picks up 2G, 3G and 4G signals and will therefore flash to alert people in cars who are using phones to call, text or data.

    If people are using a Bluetooth hands-free device, the detector will recognise this and not flash.

    The technology cannot distinguish if a passenger or a driver of a vehicle is using a phone and so the sign will be activated regardless of who is using the mobile.

    The forces say the two detectors, which cost £6,000 each, will be located on the A34 in Oxfordshire but will be posted at different locations throughout the Thames Valley and Hampshire to start - but more could be rolled out.

    Drivers caught using a mobile phone while driving are currently fined £200 and given six points on their licence.

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    Matt Barber, deputy police and crime commissioner for Thames Valley, said the system was "not fool-proof", but added the police needed to "make it as socially unacceptable to use your mobile whilst driving as it is to drink and drive".

    PC Liz Johnson, a roads safety officer, said research suggested a driver was four times more likely to crash if they were using a phone and twice as likely to be involved in a fatal collision when texting compared with drink-driving.

    "It is vital that people take notice and stop using their mobile phones whilst driving," she added.

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    Media captionDash-cam footage shows Tomasz Kroker at the wheel of his lorry before the crash on the A34 in Berkshire
     
  2. Ntecuk

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    Plenty of good motivation behind the Idea I guess.
    But ultimately down to the drive being responsible for concentrating on the task at hand.
    Not fracking around with the radio/iPod playlist..
     
  3. Red675

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    "If people are using a Bluetooth hands-free device, the detector will recognise this and not flash."

    Simple enough you would have thought until....

    "The technology cannot distinguish if a passenger or a driver of a vehicle is using a phone and so the sign will be activated regardless of who is using the mobile."

    :-?? :lol:

    I suppose it should nab a few cabbies and lorries/wvm driving on their own though so not to be sniffed at entirely.
     
  4. StephenP

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    Guess I'll be getting flashed as my phone connects to my helmets intercom
     
  5. Ntecuk

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    Well I do leave me mobile connected to the internet

    So it's going to go off when I get a notification when it's in my pocket.
    If I'm using the phone's navigation
    Etc.
     
  6. D41

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    She's pulling people over?? What a loon!!
     
  7. Red675

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    I always find when I mention it people either apologise or tell me to fuck off.
    Not arsed which ones which to be honest cos 99% of the time it gets them off their phone :))
     
  8. It should be really simple.
    If caught using a phone whilst driving, the phone should be confiscated there and then.
    The drones would soon stop if that was the case.
     
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  9. D41

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    It's not a bad idea, but there'd be privacy issues.....not just with the owner of the phone, but people on their contacts list/ phone tethered to other devices, etc. Non??
     
  10. I was only really being half serious but ok.
    Confiscated then crushed and recycled. Or just hit with a shit covered fire hammer.
    Look at me. Being all environmental and stuff :rolleyes:
     
  11. D41

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    Just confiscate them for 48-72 hours. Enough to inconvenience without the $$$ burden of replacement. For a first offense....then ramp up the fines.
     

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