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Stator problems again

Discussion in 'General' started by Gremlin, Aug 29, 2023.

  1. Gremlin

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    Hi All,

    Found this today.

    Battery is charging Ok at 14.1 volts and he reg/rec is cool to the touch.

    However, 3 phase stator plug is toast.

    Any ideas?

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  2. Gremlin

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    Btw, If it is the stator, it's probably the 5th one in as many years.

    I just can't seem to get to the bottom of it.

    Earth is fine, even added an extra earth from the engine to the frame.
     
  3. Gremlin

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    Well, it's not the stator! I had a spare, put it in and it's working fine but I can see an electrical arc in the connector block that melted on the last one and it immediately started to get hot.

    The problem must be further downstream with either the charging harness or the reg/rec or maybe even the battery?

    The battery is still charging Ok at 14.1 volts however.
     
  4. Gremlin

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    Moderators, please delete my other post on this as it's a duplicate! Doh!
     
  5. SW73

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    I feel your pain. I've done this job myself and having spoken with Clive Wood, used genuine triumph parts which even getting a deal on the RR from a dealer selling off NOS, cost bout £500 in parts (Stator/RR/harness) The charging circuit is marginal for the bike so if additional current draw is needed (e.g. to power heated grips or jacket) it can easily cause areas of hug impedance (e.g. a slightly corroded connector) to induce high temperature and melt it or draw an ever higher current as the temp rises, burning out the stator. Which last time I checked was £350 from the dealer. Genuine parts last a lot longer than aftermarket but all are consumable really it seems. I'm not an expert but I've done the job myself and it's easy enough. There's a 'how to' to test which components aren't working as they should in the charging circuit. I replaced them all (stator/RR/harness/battery -yausa not lithium!) And had no trouble since. Clive is a real good egg and if you message him and ask for some advice, he's always happy to oblige. That's my experience, others may have different ones but whatever, definitely a job which can be DIY. Hope you get sorted.
     
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  6. Gremlin

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    Thanks, I'll give Clive Wood a bell later in the week :)
     
  7. StMarks

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    Fwiw I wholeheartedly agree with SW73.: Just a little bit of corrosion on a connector terminal, and the loading starts to jump across the resistance. The heat is created the same way in an Arc Welder.!
    You are not alone Gremlin, there is another current thread : https://www.675.cc/threads/any-ideas.45456/
    Cutting out the connector, and replacing it with a suitably high load & decent quality connector has to be the way forward imho.
     
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  8. Gremlin

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    Thanks for this. It's a really useful thread:)
     
  9. I had this with a bike, the plug had melted, so I cut it out and soldered the three wires together. Doesn't matter which way round they go.

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  10. Same here, and no issues since.
     
  11. Agree with the last few posters, its highly possible your stator and reg/rec are fine and its just the plug thats failed due to a poor or loose connection.
    Replace the connector (following the advice on the other thread) or permanently join the wires as this needs doing anyway whatever the cause, then do all the tests again.
    There's a full range of tests in the workshop manual apart from just battery charging voltage, as your probably aware if you've been down this road before.
     
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  12. StMarks

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    Something that I just thought of, that will seem obvious to some of us (but not necessarily all of us), so an apology in advance if it seems patronising....
    What ever means of connection you decide upon, make sure that you cut back any discoloured wire to clean bright undamaged wire. Discoloured = oxidised.
    Oxidised = higher resistance.
    Higher resistance = the problem may well manifest itself again.
    Hth..
     
  13. StephenP

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    I've gone through a few myself and just recently gone the extra step and soldered the wires directly.

    Wrapped them in electrical tape and heat wrap, I also relocated the reg to under the battery tray for the airflow.

    So far it's holding but I lift the tank every so often to check on the wiring now

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  14. Gremlin

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    Thanks All,

    Some useful stuff here!

    Just as a test I cut the 3 phase stator plug off the stator and the connecter leading to the reg/rec and exposing clean wires used 3 connector blocks to make the connection.

    The wires leading from the stator are still getting very hot but not hot enough to melt the connector blocks!

    I'll speak to Clive Wood before deciding whether to give up on the bike and call We Buy any Bike...

    Does anyone have Clive Woods' number? The one on his website seems disconnected.
     

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