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Anyone else fitted R1 Indicators? A little help please..

Discussion in 'Bodywork' started by Triumphmark, Mar 28, 2012.

  1. Triumphmark

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    So I might be getting my Triumph LED's, but in the mean time I still want to fit my R1 Indicators.

    So I know I have to bore out the existing hole a little to fit the R1's...

    However, what did people do with the wiring?

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    Did they butcher the connection from the stock indicators or is there another option?

    Second problem, what do to with this?

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    The stock unit uses the indicator bolt to house this unit. What is it? Because I won't be using that bolt, how did people mount that unit and where?

    Any help would be much appreciated,

    Cheers!
     
  2. That's the regulator rectifer mate, not sure where you can mount it though, but you'll need good airflow to it to keep it cool.
     
  3. StMarks

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    I cut the last few inches from some old indicators, and soldered them onto my R1 style LED ones.
    Before that I had pushed the R1 connectors into the Daytona's ones, and taped them into place with insulating tape, it worked perfectly fine. (But seemed a bit too bodged for my tastes)
    I had to ream the hole in the fairing slightly with my Dremmel. This leaves the hole oval, but I don't think that's going to do any harm.
     
  4. Just had a look and can't see much but I think I used the original bolt to hold the regulator in place as the new indicators are mounted in the hole at the front of the slot that I enlarged with a cone cut. I found some connectors that fitted the harness and held them in place by using heat shrink tubing, this way I can put the originals back.
     
  5. Triumphmark

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    Thank you for your replies guys! I thought it may have been the R/R but I was under the impression it was buried deep somewhere near the battery or something?

    I'm going to have a go at the wiring tomorrow I'm pretty confident I can get that right.

    Blaster - I thought of that idea, but if that bolt is used to hold the R/R then the indicator itself won't sit flush and all the way into the recess.

    So does the R/R get hot? If I use something like very powerful velcro to secure it to the fairing will the heat eventually loosen the adhesive?

    Why isn't anything ever simple!?
     
  6. nila

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    Hey dude,
    Sounds to me like you have a newer bike than me as with the old ones the regulator sits under the seat behind the suspension.

    The regulator has nothing to do with the lights at all so I'm not quite sure how they conversations mixed the two but to fit the lights is relatively simple (I am talking hypothetically as I didn't do them myself but got my garage to shove them in at the same time as they rebuilt it for me after it was written off).

    You just drill the hole slightly bigger in the fairing then push them through.
    To wire them in, no point chopping off the heads off anything as its just a waste, just skim the side of the wire on the bike side so that the rubber is removed and just the wire inside is showing then solder (or just twist and tape if you are lazy) the light wires to this (if they have attachments these will need to be removed).

    Personally though I'd say its all a waste of time and effort and also silly to damage your fairing permanently if you have Triumph ones coming that will fit with no hassle and no damage to the bike bodywork.

    Just my thoughts, hope this helps.
    Sorry no reply before but I'm in India - back on Sunday so will be a bit more active after that.
    I'm missing my baby :(
     
  7. That looks to be the old style Reg/Rec.....best get a newer MOSFET one as a spare, ready for when it goes!!
     
  8. They don't fit all the way down the recess or mine didn't so the head of the bolt was not a problem.
     
  9. Triumphmark

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    I have a brand new bike why wouldn't I have the newest and latest Reg/Rec? I know they are known for going but I have a two year warranty with the bike so fingers crossed if it goes wrong, it will go wrong within those two years.

    What happens when the Reg/Rec goes and what are the symptoms?

    Nila - The reason the Reg/Rec is being talked about in this post because they have moved the position of it and it is now held in on a mount using the bolt on the OE indicators. Remove the indicators and it still has to be mounted.

    Anyway that is all fixed, and done. Blaster you were right, I thought the indicators sit flush to the fairing. After I widened the hole it was obvious that they wouldn't and could use a 8mm bolt underneath the R1 indicator.

    New problem though. Flash rate. I have the Triumph LED's fitted to the rear. To which the garage should have fitted the Triumph Relay kit. However I thought it fixed the problem over the whole bike, so why is the flash rate wrong with LED fronts fitted now? Any ideas?

    Thanks again
     
  10. manu675

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    I cut the offending bit of steel out of the way and used the OE connectors in off the indicators and crimped my own connectors on and used dialectric grease Nila had a tail tidy of me so he would tell you my works pretty tidy if you have a mate whos a spark he will have all the right gear to get you a permanent/reliable connection and its a 13mm bit or a dremle to open the hole wide enough for the perfect fit.

    Dont forget changing the relay and nanos look minted on the tail tidy :D
     

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  12. Are you sure they fitted the relay. I am a cheap skate and added a 27ohm 3Watt resistor across the LED to make mine slow down but that needs changing as if the engine is not running it flashes to fast. You could add a 22 ohm resistor (http://www.maplin.co.uk part number W22R) across each LED
     
  13. Triumphmark

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    I hope they have, should have been thrown in with my accessory pack that came with the bike. Think I will leave it for now, it goes in for its 500 mile service next week. Will get them to check the relay there. Either they haven't fitted it or there is a separate relay for front & rear rather than the whole bike.
     
  14. Wyrm

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    Yes, there are separate relays for front and back.
     
  15. Triumphmark

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    Cheers Wyrm you have put my mind at ease :)
     
  16. Triumphmark

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    Right well I still have flash issues. I had my 500 mile service and asked them to fit the front relay. They said I only need the one relay for the whole bike, however because the current draw is different from the rear and front LED's I am still get flash rate issues. I have looked and they 100% have fitted the official Triumph relay kit.

    Blaster, I'm looking at you here! lol Which resistors do I need? Like you when the engine is running and dependant on load sometimes the indicators flash at the correct rate. Other times not, but when the bike has only got the ignition on its always wrong.

    So if I have a triumph relay which ohm resistor would I need to get the correct rate do you know?

    Thank you
     
  17. Triumphmark

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    I'm still confused, I hate electronics! From all the reading I have done, I should either have used resistors or a relay. There is no need for both.

    So why if I have a relay do I still get a problem? All very frustrating.
     
  18. I used one of these to fix flash rate of led indicators. I have a mix of standard front and led rear and this relay fixed it fine. Expensive but easy there is only one relay behind the left hand fairing you can see it through the triangle pointy hole don't even need to take fairing off.

    http://www.biker-discount.co.uk/daytona ... 1542-p.asp

    Hope this helps
     
  19. Triumphmark

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    Thanks G13unisol, I think that's the same as this:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200642769123? ... 134wt_1058

    When I had the rear LED's fitted with standard front the indicators worked absolutely fine. I more or less have the same relay as you, just the official triumph one. Now I have fitted the R1 front LED's only now has the flash rate changed. However as I have a relay the flash rate SHOULD be fine with whatever and however many different lights fitted.

    Maybe I should just try a different relay?
     
  20. The eBay one looks the same. So with all four led indicators fitted your flash rate changes.
     

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