Anyone else fitted R1 Indicators? A little help please..

Ok, anyone know what the issue is here? As I have also just fitted LED rear indicators along with the proper Triumph relay, and standard fronts, and everything was perfect. Just fitted my R1 LED ones to the front and suddenly the flash rate is too fast!! Do the R1 flush mount LED indicators have in built resistors or something? But then I guess they'd be too slow? Do I need two Triumph relays??

 

The flash rate is dependent on the load from the lights and generally with LED indicators the load is less so the flash rate is greater. By fitting a resistor appropriately the load is increased. However some LED indicators come with resistors ready fitted.
If the R1 indicators make the flash rate too fast then they will need resistors fitted. Your rear indicators might have had resistors already fitted which matched the front indicator lamps.

Now I was told there were two 'relays' and I got two given to me with the old lights when I had mine changed - but I didn't check them so one might be a new one that came with one pair of indicators!

 

should have brought some watsens

 

Ahem, cough, cough...!!


I saw this immaculate bike in the paddock at Cadwell. At the time I didn't know for sure who's it may be.

 

I have the combined tail light and that has a load resistor built in I then fitted some extra 1 watt led's to the rear with R1 flush indicators with the standard relay (there is only one). I then had to add a 3 watt 22 ohm resistor to slow the flash rate down. Cheaper than buying the relay.

 

Watsens are on order!!! Pleaseeeese! Hurry up!

 

I guessed as much Martin675, I remember you being on the old 675.cc group-buy wishlist

 

Watsens don't need a load resistor thankfully.
I'm really tempted to replace my LEDs with Watsens...

 

I fitted a cheap Chinese combined led indicator and brake rear light off eBay. The flash rate speeded up as you would expect, fitted new relay as mentioned earlier which fixed. I have a set of led indicators laying around, after my track day on thrusday if all goes well I will slave them in on the front and see that happens and report back.

 

Cheers G13unisol, if all goes well I'll try my hand at another relay

Would be good to use a plug n play relay I can take parts on/off without altering the flash rate. Ultimately I hope to end up with one of those cheap smoked rear lights/Indicators

 

I'm going to attempt running the Triumph relay, with resistors on the front R1 LED's, and rear LED's as they are. Can I pop down to Maplins and get resistors? Or should they be the ones with the heatsinks on them like the ones all over eBay?!

 

The ones from Maplins aren't beefy enough to take the current.

 

Ok, thanks. Looks like I'll have to spend another 20 quid on two resistors then..... getting expensive this, maybe I should have bought Watsens! Surely the 15 quid I spent on the Triumph relay is now pointless if I'm having to get resistors as well?

 

If you've got the Triumph LED relay then you shouldn't need the resistors.
I'd fit them without resistors first and see what the flash rate is - should be ok.
If not you can get the resistors over night.

 

I have already done this. I first fitted the LED rears and left the OEM bulb fronts on - flash rate fast. Then fitted the Triumph relay - flash rate fine. Then fitted the LED fronts, so at this point all 4 are LED - flash rate fast again.

 

That doesn't sound right. The Triumph LED relay should have a third wire connection that needs to go to earth (negative battery). Have you connected that? Also did you try it with the engine running?

 

Yep, the 3rd terminal is earthed, and the other two go to the plug that plugs into the bike's loom.

I actually haven't tried the indicators with the engine running yet though - I will try this.

 

Something doesn't sound quite right with the LED flasher relay.

But since it worked with one set of LEDs and one standard bulb you could try putting a 22 ohm 10 watt resistor in parallel which would be the equivalent of a single bulb.

Maplin sell them order code H22R ( http://www.maplin.co.uk/10-watt-wirewound-resistor-2181 )

See also http://daytona675.org.uk/turnflash.htm

 

Excellent! Thanks. This was my thinking, I'm sure the resistors will work, but it seems strange that the flasher relay doesn't seem to totally do its job....

Those Maplin ones are a fair bit cheaper then the ones I've seen on eBay @ ~£10 each.

 

Picked up the maplins ones for 59p each - worked a treat. Now I need to work out where/how to mount the resistors so that get some sort of cooling and don't melt anything!